Journals of the Senate
1st Session, 41st Parliament
Issue 138
Thursday, February 14, 2013
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable Noël A. Kinsella, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Batters, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Braley, Brown, Buth, Callbeck, Campbell, Carignan, Chaput, Comeau, Cools, Cordy, Cowan, Dagenais, Dallaire, Day, De Bané, Downe, Doyle, Duffy, Dyck, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Finley, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Furey, Gerstein, Greene, Harb, Housakos, Hubley, Johnson, Joyal, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, Lovelace Nicholas, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Meredith, Mitchell, Mockler, Moore, Munson, Nancy Ruth, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Ogilvie, Oh, Oliver, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Rivest, Robichaud, Runciman, Segal, Seidman, Seth, Sibbeston, Smith (Cobourg), Smith (Saurel), Stewart Olsen, Stratton, Tardif, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wallin, Watt, Wells, White, Zimmer
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Batters, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Braley, Brown, Buth, Callbeck, Campbell, Carignan, Chaput, Comeau, Cools, Cordy, Cowan, Dagenais, Dallaire, Day, De Bané, Downe, Doyle, Duffy, Dyck, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Finley, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Furey, Gerstein, Greene, Harb, Housakos, Hubley, Johnson, Joyal, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, Lovelace Nicholas, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Meredith, Mitchell, Mockler, Moore, Munson, Nancy Ruth, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Ogilvie, Oh, Oliver, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Rivest, Robichaud, Runciman, Segal, Seidman, Seth, Sibbeston, Smith (Cobourg), Smith (Saurel), Stewart Olsen, Stratton, Tardif, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wallin, Watt, Wells, White, Zimmer
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Presenting or Tabling Reports from Standing or Special Committees
The Honourable Senator Ogilvie, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, presented its nineteenth report (Bill C-316, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (incarceration), without amendment).
The Honourable Senator Boisvenu moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Braley, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Gerstein, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce, presented its ninth report (Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada Act, without amendment).
The Honourable Senator Carignan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wallin, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Mockler, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, presented its ninth report (supplementary budget—study on research and innovation in the agricultural sector).
(The report is printed as an appendix at pages 1927-1932 (available in print format PDF).)
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Mockler moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wallace, that the report be placed
on the Orders of the Day for consideration later this day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
First Reading of Commons Public Bills
A message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-383, An Act to amend the International Boundary Waters Treaty Act and the International River Improvements Act, to which it desires the concurrence of the Senate.
The bill was read the first time.
The Honourable Senator Carignan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duffy, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
A point of order was raised with respect to a Senator's statement.
Debate.
SPEAKER'S RULING
Honourable senators, I thank the Honourable Senator Patterson for his intervention. I had not followed the statement he was making last week as closely as I should have. He was making reference to Bill C-45, which was well off the Order Paper and had become part of the statutes. It was not on the Order Paper, but I thought it was, so I cut him off. I have apologized to him.
Senator Tardif raises an important point for any honourable senator who is in the chair. As in the example that I have given, it is hard to follow all the detail of the statements being made. Although the scroll is examined before coming into the chamber to try to prepare for the sitting, I do not always remember all that is on the Order Paper. It is easy to err when trying to use that part of the Rules.
All honourable senators should reflect on this because Senators' Statements will occur again prior to me giving the ruling requested. Senators' Statements are an important part of the proceedings for all senators; so much so that sometimes my watch is not as accurate as it ought to be. All honourable senators generally indicate that they are happy to have had the opportunity to get their statement in. Ninety-nine per cent of those statements are not subject to these kinds of questions. It is important for senators to recognize that there is a menu of opportunities to raise issues. Inquiries present the best one because 15 minutes are available, and sometimes that time can be extended.
If it is helpful, I will invite the procedural team to suggest guidelines so that all honourable senators will have some guidance. Under the Rules of the Senate, a point of order can be raised during Senators' Statements. However, senators should want to avoid raising points of order during that time because the house could end up with no statements once one senator rises on a point of order. Senators' Statements could be spent on the point of order debate.
Balance and perspicacity will be the order of the day. I would be happy to be of help to the chamber.
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills — Second Reading
Second reading of Bill S-15, An Act to amend the Canada National Parks Act and the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act and to make consequential amendments to the Canada Shipping Act, 2001.
The Honourable Senator MacDonald moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Beyak, that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Tardif moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that further debate on the
motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 2 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Commons Public Bills — Third Reading
Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills — Reports of Committees
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills — Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills — Second Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Eaton, seconded by the Honourable Senator Rivard, for the second reading of Bill C-377, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (requirements for labour organizations).
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Segal, for the Honourable Senator Ringuette, moved, seconded by the Honourable
Senator Nolin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 3 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees — Other
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Consideration of the ninth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry (supplementary budget—study on research and innovation in the agricultural sector), presented in the Senate earlier this day.
The Honourable Senator Mockler moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., that the report be adopted.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Motions
Orders No. 75 and 128 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Inquiries
Orders No. 44, 35, 61, 59, 45, 9, 18, 22, 60, 62, 50, 40, 57, 3, 56 and 19 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
With leave,
The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Carignan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton:
That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, February 26, 2013, at 2 p.m.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7):
Report of the Northern Pipeline Agency, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2012, pursuant to the Northern Pipeline Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-26, ss. 13 and 14.—Sessional Paper No. 1/41- 1484.
Report of the Association of Canada Lands Surveyors for the year ended June 8, 2012, pursuant to the Canada Land Surveyors Act, S.C. 1998, c. 14, sbs. 70(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/41-1485.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Carignan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 3:26 p.m. the Senate was continued until Tuesday, February 26, 2013, at 2 p.m.)
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5
Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples
The Honourable Senator Demers replaced the Honourable Senator Meredith (February 14, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry
The Honourable Senator Eaton replaced the Honourable Senator Frum (February 13, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce
The Honourable Senator Buth replaced the Honourable Senator Tkachuk (February 14, 2013).
The Honourable Senator Stewart Olsen replaced the Honourable Senator Poirier (February 14, 2013).
The Honourable Senator Tkachuk replaced the Honourable Senator Patterson (February 14, 2013).
The Honourable Senator Patterson replaced the Honourable Senator Tkachuk (February 13, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade
The Honourable Senator Campbell replaced the Honourable Senator Dawson (February 13, 2013).
Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration
The Honourable Senator Fraser replaced the Honourable Senator Charette-Poulin (February 13, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on National Finance
The Honourable Senator Finley replaced the Honourable Senator Stratton (February 14, 2013).
The Honourable Senator Nancy Ruth replaced the Honourable Senator Martin (February 14, 2013).